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# Lijsbeth Tijsz van Brugge *The following device associated with this name was registered in January of 1997 (via Meridies): Per pale purpure and vert a winged lion segreant to sinister maintaining a sun in splendor Or. Lijsbeth seems to be missing a comma after 'and vert'. |
First, check this page to make sure it hasn't already been reported.
Then, check the Errata Page in Progress listing to see if it isn't already scheduled for an errata letter. Note that Errata Page in Progress should not be edited by anyone but the Errata Clerk.
Third, check the recent LoARs? for errata letters to make sure it hasn't already been dealt with.
Then, add items to this page to report them. Try to keep things in chronological order, with most recent mistakes first.
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Currently, precedent holds that a name where the individual elements are documented more than 300 years apart
is a step from period practice. In March 2003, Laurel ruled:
in a number of my recent rulings, I've ruled that excessive temporal mismatching can be considered a
"weirdness", costing the submitter the benefit of the doubt. With this LoAR, I hereby make the new policy
official: If the elements of a submitted name are dated too far apart, then any other anomaly in the name
may combine to force it to be returned.. . .
The quoted ruling is actually from the March, 1993 LoAR.
January 1985 ***** West ****
Brighid Ni Re{a'}ne. Name correction from Brighid ni Roane.
Listed on the LoAR as a device reblazon for Brighid ni Roane,
her name was registered as Brighid Ni Re{a'}ne on the 10/1980
LoAR.
May 1985 *****
West ****
Sariya al Mus'ad. Name change correction from Brighid ni Roane.
Listed on the LoAR as a name change from Brighid ni Roane, this
name was registered as Brighid Ni Re{a'}ne on the 10/1980 LoAR.
The name Brighid Ni Re{a'}ne is hereby released.
...however, examination of the hard-copy of the October 1980 LoAR suggests that the name was Roane. The o is filled in (mimeograph printing), but it can be distinguished from a similarly filled in e by the small indentation in the e. If that should have been an e, then the 10/1980 LoAR needs correction. The online version of the LoAR shows Re{a'}ne, but that does not agree with the hardcopy.
Rinaldo of Blackhaven
This name was registered in January of 1987 (via the Middle).
The following device associated with this name was registered in November of 2004 (via the Middle):
Or, a pegasus salient sable sustaining and ridden by a man in armor vert maintaining a sword sable..
for Household of the Dark Winds
The following device associated with this name was registered in January of 1987 (via the Middle):
Gyronny azure and argent, a bat displayed maintaining a fasces gules, wearing a barrel helm sable.
The following device associated with this name was registered in February of 1987 (via the Middle) and reblazoned in November of 2004 (via the Middle):
Or, a pegasus salient sable ridden by a man in armour guardant vert, maintaining a sword sable.
The Feb. 1987 LoAR registers the pegasus as a badge for the Household of the Dark Winds. So, that's the datebase error (calling it a device). The Nov. 2004 LoAR reblazons the armory calling it a device and not mentioning the association with the household. There's also an extra period at the end of the reblazon. That's the LoAR errors. I'm not reporting the database errors on the other badge because fixing that without fixing this will cause even more confusion.
<Ysoglaig> is a typo; it should be <Ysgolaig> per http://www.panix.com/~gabriel/public-bin/showfinal.cgi?2799+0.
* This name was registered in July of 2004 (via Atenveldt).
and
* This name was registered in February of 2004 (via Atenveldt).
* The following device associated with this name was registered in February of 2004 (via Atenveldt):
Per pale Or and vert, in pale a single-horned anvil and a hare salient sable.
The first entry is a name change of the second, according to the LoAR:
"Ælfwin Ironhair. Name. ... Her old name, Guilla Ironhare is released."
It wasn't listed as a name change in the header, which is probably where the error got into the DB.
Herveus: This is a genuine erratum. The LoAR needs to be corrected. I can add a note, but that's all.
* This name was registered in May of 2004 (via Trimaris).
* This name was registered in June of 2003 (via Trimaris).
* The following device associated with this name was registered in November of 1989 (via the Outlands):
Argent, on a pile bendwise sinister issuant from base between two crescents azure, an owl statant to sinister argent.
* The following augmentation associated with this name was registered in January of 2001 (via the Outlands):
Argent, on a pile bendwise sinister throughout issuant from base between two crescents azure, an owl statant to sinister argent, as an augmentation on a chief azure, two keys fesswise reversed in fess argent.
The base blazon of the augmentation should match the registered armory. Either the blazon for the augmented arms should be changed or the base device (reg. 1989) should be reblazoned.
* This appeared in June of 1999 (via the East).
It appears to have been a mis-spelling of East, Kingdom of the.
* The following device associated with this name was registered in November of 1999 (via Trimaris):
Per bend sinister vert and sable, an arrow bendwise argent.
Full form: B{rv}etislava Je{rv}{a'}bek
* The following badge associated with this name was registered in March of 1999 (via Trimaris):
Barry Or and gules, three antlers conjoined at their bases in pall inverted, a bordure rayonny sable.
Full form: B{rv}etislava Je{rv}{a'}bek
* The following device associated with this name was registered in July of 1982 (via Caid) and corrected blazon in October of 1998 (via Caid):
Or, a wolf's head erased, on a chief sable, a stag's attire Or.
Full form: D{e-}orwulf s{e-} Deorc
* The following device associated with this name was registered in October of 1998 (via Caid):
Or, a wolf's head erased, on a chief sable, a stag's attires Or.
Full form: D{e-}orwulf s{e-} Deorc
* This appeared in October of 1998 (via Caid).
It appears to have been a mis-spelling of Deorwulf se Deorc.
Full form: D{e-}orwulf s{e-} Deorc
* This name was registered in June of 1996 (via the Middle).
* The following device associated with this name was registered in February of 1998 (via the Middle):
Per pale vert and sable, a Catherine's wheel and an oak leaf, a chief triangular argent.
* The following device associated with this name was registered in April of 1998 (via the Middle):
Per pall argent, sable, and vert, a Catherine's wheel and an oak leaf argent.
? intended to be a device change
JML: Not a device change, possibly a reblazon (but if so it's not accurate). The April 1998 LoAR states "This was registered on the February 1998 LoAR." It really is a chief triangular, not a per pall field division. Double check with Shauna to make sure there wasn't another submission; I only have the Feb. 1998 emblazon. Ary - If there wasn't another submission form, can you handle this in an Errata letter or do you need me to handle it on the LoAR?
* This appeared in January of 1998 (via AEthelmearc).
It appears to have been a mis-spelling of Æthelmearc, Kingdom of.
This error was corrected on the 08/2006 errata letter.
No, it wasn't. It was a different misspelling that was corrected there. The January 1998 LoAR was not mentioned on that errata letter.
* The following device associated with this name was registered in January of 1997 (via the Middle):
Gules, an open book surmounted by an arrow inverted, all within a laurel wreath argent.
Full form: Svat{y'} {Sv}ebesta, College of
* This appeared in January of 1997 (via the Middle).
It appears to have been a mis-spelling of Svatý Sebesta, College of.
Full form: Svat{y'} Sebe{sv}ta, College of
Full form: Svat{y'} {Sv}ebesta, College of
*The following device associated with this name was registered in January of 1997 (via Meridies):
Per pale purpure and vert a winged lion segreant to sinister maintaining a sun in splendor Or.
Lijsbeth seems to be missing a comma after 'and vert'.
This is a duplicate registration of Shane O Brollaghan, name and device, "Per bend sinister purpure and vert, a seven-headed wingless hydra statant contourny within a double tressure Or," reg. 01/1996 via Calontir.
* This heraldic title was registered to Drachenwald, Kingdom of in May of 1996 (via Drachenwald).
* This heraldic title was registered to East, Kingdom of the in March of 1988 (via the East) and transferred to Drachenwald, Kingdom of in May of 1996 (via Drachenwald).
I have written the East again about a file's check.
* The following badge associated with this name was registered in December of 1994 (via Laurel):
Per pale argent and gules, on a chief azure a mullet argent.
Important non-SCA flag
It should be "Per fess argent and gules, on a dexter tierce azure a mullet argent."
Found in the O&A:
* The following device associated with this name was registered in December of 1994 (via Laurel):
Azure, a royal crown Or the cap gules.
Important non-SCA arms
It should be "Toledo, Kingdom of"
* This name was registered in September of 1992 (via Ansteorra).
* The following device associated with this name was registered in February of 1994 (via Ansteorra):
Vert, a furison and a bordure urdy argent.
* The following badge associated with this name was registered in September of 1992 (via Ansteorra):
Vert, a furison within a bordure urdy argent.
The Feb. 1994 LoAR notes "This is the submitter's currently registered badge. Submitted as Katherine de Laine, the above form was registered in the September 1992 LoAR and appears on her original name submissions forms." It appears that this should have been a change from badge to device and she should only have a single piece of armory registered. Please verify with Shauna - it's not on the CDs. Make the 1994 blazon match the one registered in 1992. -- JML
* The following seal associated with this name was registered in June of 1994 (via Drachenwald):
(Tinctureless) Two straight trumpets in saltire surmounted by a dragon's head couped.
re-registered 9605D
* This name was referenced in June of 1994 (via Drachenwald) in a registration by Heralds' Seals: Schwartzdrachen Principal Herald.
* This heraldic title was registered to East, Kingdom of the in December of 1975 and transferred to Drachenwald, Kingdom of in May of 1996 (via Drachenwald).
* This heraldic title was registered to Drachenwald, Kingdom of in May of 1996 (via Drachenwald).
* This order name was registered to Adiantum, Barony of in August of 1991 (via An Tir).
Is this the same as
* This order name was registered to Adiantum, Barony of in March of 1989 (via An Tir).
* The following badge associated with this name was registered in December of 1990 (via Ansteorra):
(Fieldless) A lily-of-the-valley [Muset de Bois] slipped and leaved proper.
? same person as Custance nic Ralbert Macconnachie
* This name was registered in October of 1987 (via Ansteorra).
* The following device associated with this name was registered in October of 1987 (via Ansteorra):
Purpure, on a pale Or three frets conjoined gules, all within a bordure Or.
JML: also should be Guild, not Build.
Erasmierz Waspanieski. Release of device. ...
Erasmierz Waspanieski. Badge.
* This name was changed to Gwendolyn of Aaron Isles in March of 1989 (via Meridies).
inaccurate and erroneous name change
12/1983 LOAR: Gwendolyn of Aaron Isles. Name only.
As you noted, November 1988, p. 13. Hmm, I see I forgot the page numbers on most of these. Sorry. If you need them, I'll go look them up again.
Se{o'}nag S rensdatter. Name only
P. 3.
Sweyn Halvhand Arnss nn. Name only.
That's #1. Yes, an intrusive space.
* This appeared in August of 1987 (via Laurel).
It appears to have been a mis-spelling of Debatable Lands, Barony-Marche of the.
This does not occur at http://www.sca.org/heraldry/loar/1987/08/lar.html. I'm looking for more info.
* This name was registered in June of 1976 (via Atenveldt) and released in March of 1986 (via Caid).
* The following device associated with this name was registered in June of 1976 (via Atenveldt) and released in March of 1986 (via Caid):
Arbent, a sun gules charged with a lion's head cabossed.
* This appeared in March of 1986 (via Caid).
It appears to have been a mis-spelling of Echegaray of Shadow Valley.
The 03/1986 electronic LoAR has:
Echegry of Shadow Valley. Release of name and device. Argent, a sun gules charged with lion's head cabossed Or. [March 1980). NOTE: These are a former name and device of the person now know as Aelfred Halvdan of Holdene (above).
* This appeared in October of 1983 (via the East).
It appears to have been a mis-spelling of David Morgan of Claíomh Morgan.
According to the files, <David Morgan of Clai Morgan> is not a misspelling of <David Morgan of Claíomh Morgan>; it is a name change which was approved 10/1983, though this was not explicitly stated on the LoAR. Let me know on the errata page if you want me to make an errata entry for the name change.
This is still a pending erratum. The O&A accurately reflects what is in the LoAR. If it was meant as a name change on the fly, it needs to be made explicit.
This is so insanely light that I completely missed it when looking at the color copy in Ansteorra's files. In fact, ours just looks plain argent (marked sable). The scan in Laurel's files, if you zoom in and squint, shows what MIGHT be a very very light yellow, but even so, in comparison to the rest of the Or bits of the device, it looks argent to me. -- Emma
I don't know what's on the original LOARs, but the principality consistently uses "Corolla". See also "Corolla Muralis", "Corolla Vitea", and "Corollae Nebularum", all registered in August 1987. Please let us know if a correction needs to be submitted.
* The following device associated with this name was registered in July of 1981 (via the East):
Sable, a fess dancetty, argent between in chief three apples, leaved, proper, and in base a grenade argent, flamed proper.
* The following device associated with this name was registered in August of 1979 (via the East):
Sable, a fess indented argent between in chief three red apples leaved and stemmed proper, and in base a bombshell argent. [Pyrus malus]
I wonder if these are the same people.
AmC?: Emailed Shauna. JML: yes, they are. Ary - check the CDs under Gwenneth ni Gallighir (or ask Shauna to)
* This name was referenced in January of 1976 in a registration by Heralds' Seals: Silver Quill Pursuivant.
* This heraldic title was registered to Atenveldt, Kingdom of in June of 1976.
Is this the same as
* This heraldic title was registered to West, Kingdom of the at some point and released in December of 1990 (via the West).
Heraldicon: Manfred Gustsson (August 1979, East): Gules, a raven displayed fesswise sable, orbed gules, all fimbriated or. That blazon needs the tincture "or" capitalized.
In fact, it appears that large numbers of registrations on that letter spell the tincture 'or'. The first word of the blazon is generally correct. Elsewhere, it's a coin flip.
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The Order of the Maunch is not spelled that way in Kingdom Law or in the O & A. It appears in the Heraldicon listings, however.
Page in the Kingdom binder has Maunch typewritten, but the artwork is labeled Manche in calligraphy. Name was not explicitly registered until 1987, but the badge was registered to the Order in 1979.
> The 1987 Armorial including the following: > > "Included herein is a list of awards and titles of both SCA and > mundane origin, generated both from Letters of Acceptances and > Returns from Laurel, and mundane encyclopedias and similar sources." > > I'm trying to find out how a certain Eastern order was listed > there. Is it: > > Manch, > Manche, > Maunch, or > Maunche? > > Or, none of the above?
In the order list:
Maunche, Order of the (OM) (p. A-3)
In the Armorial:
Order of the Maunch (p. 58) Maunch, Order of the (Reference, see East Kingdom, August 1979) (p. 122)
In the Ordinary:
Order of the Maunch (p. 454)
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Yet more Heraldicon:
Looking at the original submission form, this should be "ap", not "op"